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Subject: RE: Repairing Tubulars?
Date: 04/28/2005 05:17 AM
From: Keith A. Prior

I would replace the tire.

I would just not feel good about being at speed
on the track on a tire with 160 pounds of air with
a sealed hole!



-K



-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Evans [mailto:Dou-@sprbrk.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:49 AM
To: mike.m-@obra.org; Freyensee, James P; ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Repairing Tubulars?


Stan's may work. It sure does a great job at sealing mtb tires.

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.m-@obra.org [mailto:mike.m-@obra.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:47 AM
To: 'Freyensee, James P'; ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Repairing Tubulars?


These are not repair kits. This is the sealant that Peter spoke of. It is
basically a goo that you stick in the valve that will blow out the leak and
then solidify hopefully sealing the hole. Slime is the same deal. It will
work OK for a small puncture but will not seal a big one. I have not used
the TUFO product but I have used Slime and I now that it can be a major PITA
if you have a bigger puncture since the stuff will spray all over. This is
probably more of a problem at higher tire inflation pressures. Personally I
think that Slime is a marginal product and I expect that the TUFO sealant is
probably not a lot better.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Freyensee, James P [mailto:james.p.f-@intel.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:34 AM
To: mike.m-@obra.org; ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Repairing Tubulars?


Actually, on the Tufos, I have seen Tufo repair kits being sold by dealers
that sell Tufo...I have no clue how well they work or even how they work.

See here: http://www.tufonorthamerica.com/accessories.php

Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.m-@obra.org [mailto:mike.m-@obra.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:28 AM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Repairing Tubulars?

Most tubular tires are repairable however the TUFO are not since they don't
have a sewn casing that can be opened. I have repaired tires and used them
on the track, generally only if they have tiny leaks that can be patched
easily and safely. If they have casing cuts or tread cuts then I wouldn't
use them at the track. The plan at Alpenrose should be to never get a flat
since many flats will lead to falls. In addition, regular sewn track tires
are difficult to repair because they will have very thin casings, tread and
tubes. Road tubulars are a different deal and most of the tires that people
are using at Alpenrose really are road tires. The thicker construction
makes repair easier to do and not screw up. Tubular repair is not difficult
but it is becoming a lost art.

Mike Murray
(quit using tubulars on the road several years ago) -----Original
Message-----
From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 09:37 AM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Repairing Tubulars?


Well, I have a flat on my S3 Pro's. 99.9% of the riding these tires have

seen has been on either Alpenrose or rollers. The .1% is probably where
I got the flat, testing a gear by my house.

Never had tubulars before. Can these be repaired effectively to feel
safe riding on the track? Haven't been able to locate the leak either,
even after pumping up to 160+. It's an extremely slow leak.
Put soapy water on the tire too and couldn't see any bubbles.

Plenty of references on-line on how to repair; is it the opinion of
others that it's best left to those with experience? Or is it common to
just chuck the tire if it's used on the track?

Thanks,
Marty

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