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Subject: RE: Repairing Tubulars?
Date: 04/28/2005 05:17 AM
From: Schreck, George

My experience with the Tufo sealer was with cross tires. The sealant
appeared to work for one race, but in the second race I lost some
pressure, and in the third race, when I got to the start line, it went
flat. Lucky for me, in that race, the pit was near the start area, and
I was able to make a quick switch before the start. My conclusion is
that if you are willing to spend the money on tubulars for a perceived
racing advantage, why take the risk of an untimely flat by trying to
save some money. It seems like a poor economy, and if you are concerned
about the cost of replacing tubulars, stick with clinchers.

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.m-@obra.org [mailto:mike.m-@obra.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:47 AM
To: 'Freyensee, James P'; ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Repairing Tubulars?

These are not repair kits. This is the sealant that Peter spoke of. It
is
basically a goo that you stick in the valve that will blow out the leak
and
then solidify hopefully sealing the hole. Slime is the same deal. It
will
work OK for a small puncture but will not seal a big one. I have not
used
the TUFO product but I have used Slime and I now that it can be a major
PITA
if you have a bigger puncture since the stuff will spray all over. This
is
probably more of a problem at higher tire inflation pressures.
Personally I
think that Slime is a marginal product and I expect that the TUFO
sealant is
probably not a lot better.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Freyensee, James P [mailto:james.p.f-@intel.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:34 AM
To: mike.m-@obra.org; ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Repairing Tubulars?


Actually, on the Tufos, I have seen Tufo repair kits being sold by
dealers
that sell Tufo...I have no clue how well they work or even how they
work.

See here: http://www.tufonorthamerica.com/accessories.php

Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.m-@obra.org [mailto:mike.m-@obra.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:28 AM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Repairing Tubulars?

Most tubular tires are repairable however the TUFO are not since they
don't
have a sewn casing that can be opened. I have repaired tires and used
them
on the track, generally only if they have tiny leaks that can be patched
easily and safely. If they have casing cuts or tread cuts then I
wouldn't
use them at the track. The plan at Alpenrose should be to never get a
flat
since many flats will lead to falls. In addition, regular sewn track
tires
are difficult to repair because they will have very thin casings, tread
and
tubes. Road tubulars are a different deal and most of the tires that
people
are using at Alpenrose really are road tires. The thicker construction
makes repair easier to do and not screw up. Tubular repair is not
difficult
but it is becoming a lost art.

Mike Murray
(quit using tubulars on the road several years ago) -----Original
Message-----
From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 09:37 AM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Repairing Tubulars?


Well, I have a flat on my S3 Pro's. 99.9% of the riding these tires have

seen has been on either Alpenrose or rollers. The .1% is probably where
I got the flat, testing a gear by my house.

Never had tubulars before. Can these be repaired effectively to feel
safe riding on the track? Haven't been able to locate the leak either,
even after pumping up to 160+. It's an extremely slow leak.
Put soapy water on the tire too and couldn't see any bubbles.

Plenty of references on-line on how to repair; is it the opinion of
others that it's best left to those with experience? Or is it common to
just chuck the tire if it's used on the track?

Thanks,
Marty

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